NEWS: LONDON Terrorist attacks. Crazy stuff

[Joshstar]

Hope your all watching the news, terrorists have blown up the london transit system..

[Invert_D]

yeh that heaps bad, so sketchy thinkn about terrorist attacks now, u dont no when there going to attack or who

[lmnop]

nah just heard it but...thats shockin ay kinda makes you scared to live in this world

[PennyWise]

Fark me!!! My mrs is over in london at the moment too!!! have been trying to call her but all the communications are jammed up over there!!!

[lmnop]

o shit..sorry to hear that mate i couldnt imagine wat that would be like

[Booger]

Eh watever I'm missing the cricket thanks to this.

[Joshstar]

thats the most rudest / arrogant / inconsiderate thing ive ever heard i hope your joking.

those of you who dont own a tv or a radio here you go

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15854272-2,00.html?from=ni_header

thats the first of the eyewitness account videos

[Booger]

Its harsh and I do feel sorry for all these people but you know what your letting the terrorists have the way by giving it massive coverage so for all I care I don't wanna see it on tv and I'm quite sure we will get enough of this to the point we are sick of it just like 9/11. I know some people that are in London and its quite scary cause they are close family so I know how it feels.

[Joshstar]

but dude its a major incident, this attacks will be known 500 years from now in the history books, your apart of it, dont you wanna see? this is the biggest thing in the last few decades even century, besides the tsunami

[bombsaway]

yep just another arrogant little piece of sh!t hopefully i somethign inturupts a show im watchign saying "little fagget drown in shorebreak" aka booger then ill make a post on here saying it inturupted my show and i dont care.

[Rebecca Sharpe]

I'm living in London at the mo. It's almost like going to work is test of survival. The London police were sent to Edinburgh to cope with the G8 - talk about prime opportunity for terrorism.

[northathegoldy]

booger as if you can relate, you wouldn't be talking like that if you could. Keep your fucken rude ignorant comments to yourself

[Booger]

Northofthegoldy shut your mouth you wouldn't know shit.

[exbunobooga]

They were talking bout in on JJJ this morn, steve canain (sp) said that since afganistan terrorism has gone nutso n crazy shit like this has become very frequent. Can thank america for this, should of stuck with getting the towl heads but they had to go after the oil too and 'liberate' iraq. all the money they have spent stopping terror attacks has actually made the situation extremely worse.

[beck]

It was always going to happen in London, it was just a matter of time... the news says 37 killed but i bet it will rise so much higher. Thats like when the tsunami hit they predicted 50 dead, then 200 and it just keep doubling.
The scary thing is, we're in the same boat, it really is only a matter of time for our turn. US has been crossed off the list, now the British.... we're the only ones left who is playing a major role in Afghanistan/Iraq...

[yewwww!]

i hate it how people bring the blame straight to alkida and their religious exteemism. do u rekon anyone has ever thought to think that they are doing these things for differant reasons then religious exteemism? lets put it in to prospecive. america gets farked up by 911.... americans being the people that they are need someone to blame. everyone is angry and the presidentail polls are coming close. bush needs to do something to keep his position as president so starts a ridiculus campain on iraque having weapons of mass distruction which are potentially a threat to american civilisation. invades their country, kills endless amounts of innocent people and all for what? find any "waepons of mass destruction?"

now lets say your apart of this. watching mass amounts of your country's people needlessly die. what can you do about that? the media has all ready portrayed your whole people as an enemy to the world. what other options do you have left to get attention?

dont get me wrong, im not saying what they did was right, but i think we had i coming. i also think that Australia is next on the list. i just wish that people would stop pointing the finger at religious extreemism and garbage like that. ifi was a pom, and looking for a reason to blame for this, i'd say, thanks america, u just got 50 of my mates killed.

[exbunobooga]

America went after afganistan to get the taliban, understandible considering what happened. Iraq isnt about 'weapons of mass destruction'. George W bush's dad, George senior went after sadam and iraq when he was prez but pulled out. The current prez is finishing what his dad started. Afganistan helped get aproval, they would most certainly know there were no nukes and are only wanting to control the oil (american government isnt stupid, they have their eyes on everything). The western world needs oil and having a large amount of it controlled by iraq doesnt sit well.

[beck]

Interesting perspective yewww.

Think how many innocent people from Iraq and Afghanistan have died as a result of Australian/US/British troops, im sure a lot more than 37! It is easy to condemn the terroists for killing innocent people, but perhaps they are just searching for justice ( note i think in the totally wrong way) but how else can the alqaeda get anyone to take notice of them, other than strapping a few bombs to their chest and blowing things up? Surley they could not rely on eloquent talks with the governments, because they would just laugh at them.

Bottom line,why is it when western people die as a result of malcious acts is plastered all over the news ( and justifiably so) when innocent people in the middle east are dying everyday, and no one gives a ..... fill in the blank.

[Joshstar]

good to see i finally started a thread that has valid points with long posts.
from the select few anyways..
mmm political discussion should be controversial but not argumenetive.(sp) keep your thoughts coming

[Fisheye]

Beck you said "but how else can the alqaeda get anyone to take notice of them, other than strapping a few bombs to their chest and blowing things up? Surley they could not rely on eloquent talks with the governments, because they would just laugh at them"

Yeww you said: "what other options do you have left to get attention?"

There is a million ways to get the attention of governments rather then blowing people up. You just cant blow people up when people dont listern. The taliban wouldnt listern to anyone when we people protested about them mass murdering women for not covering their face.

I have conflicting views within myself.

I know the war had many reasons why it was bad. Everyone hates bush and I dont like him either. But on the other hand, Saddam Hussein is one of the most evil people in the world. I think good on them for bringing him down, they just did it the wrong way and killed to many people in the process.

Props to america though for not blowing him up, rather, giving him a trial.

[Fisheye]

There is religious exteremist in every religion though. Although not all of them are prepared to kill other people for it.

But religion has a bloody history when you look into the past. People just get too passionate and forget the underlining principles of what they actually believe.

For example,most muslims are cool as people who show compassion and love towards everyone and wouldnt hurt anyone. Although some think that the world is becomming evil so they must kill people to grab people attention to their 'true religion'.

I think muslim leaders should just all meet with all the big heads of government and express their concerns.

[beck]

Just think how much more peaceful the world would be if it wasnt for the increasing demand for oil...

They have made new petrol consisting of ethanol which is derived from sugar cane, it basically dilutes the amount of oil used to make petrol and reduces the amount needed. Cars run more efficiently on ethanol and create less pollution. Cars can run on pure ethanol so there is no need for oil ... the only problem is it costs a lot more to produce than actual petrol. But if pure ethanol is introduced it would increase the amount of sugar cane needed, and it just so happens the Australian sugar cane industry is pretty much dead.... so this increased income could compensate for the production costs. Makes sense?

[yewwww!]

There is religious exteremist in every religion though. Although not all of them are prepared to kill other people for it.

But religion has a bloody history when you look into the past. People just get too passionate and forget the underlining principles of what they actually believe.

For example,most muslims are cool as people who show compassion and love towards everyone and wouldnt hurt anyone. Although some think that the world is becomming evil so they must kill people to grab people attention to their 'true religion'.

I think muslim leaders should just all meet with all the big heads of government and express their concerns.
exactly, there are exteremists is all religions. so why is the only acts of religious exteremism we hear about is through muslims? its becuase people cant take in the fact that they may have contributed to the destruction. its more just, that dude just blew him self up and killed some people, he's black, most likely arabic, there for must be a muslim exteremist. instead of, hey, mabey this guy is trying to say something. we just invaded his country, killed his whole family and didnt find anything that we said we would find. its alot easyier to put to blame on someone else, instead of sitting and thinking a logical way of resolving the problem. just sit down, and listen to what they have to say. 2 sides to every story.

and beck, shouldnt u be at school?

[beck]

dont go back till tuesday pal

[exit 34]

yeh fair enough yeww i can see where your coming from, however the main goal of the muslim religion is to take over and turn everyone into muslims. and according to the religion anybody who isnt a muslim should not live and if a suicide bomber kills members of other religions they go straight to heaven with 97 hot virgin women. This religion is the fastest growing religion in the world and apparently in the near future the most part of the world will be muslim. scary shit.......

[exbunobooga]

Im not a fan of religon, especially the people that push there beleifs on you. Like this little old lady come into my work yesterday arvy trying to hand me a booklet. I quickly realised she was a jahovas witness attempting to brainwash me, I got mega pissed off, I mean the nerve. So I took off my sunnies, looked her straight in the eye, then said "lets see if your faith saves you from this" and gave her a side kick to the chest crushing her frail bones sending her flying through the plane glass door.

[hollowpoint]

Mate the main goal of the muslim religion may be to indoctrinate the entire world population to follow Allah, but the religion in itself is also one of the most peaceful religions around. No offense to strong christians on this forum, but it is christianity that has murdered more people than any other religion in the world and Exit 34, it's for the same reason you just put forward... to convert the world to chrisitanity. It's not the religion that is to blame, it's the peoplein these religions that are extremists. These extremists are often to blame but as Yewww says, in these cases it's almost definately not to convert the western world to becoming muslims. It's a revenge war and in a way to make the western world pay for the "sins" on the eastern world. It was a worthy cause to take out the taliban, and to remove Huessein. What wasn't worthy was the way it was done. Afghanistan is an absolute mess. Thousands of people die everyday from starvation and civil unrest cause the US army with the aid of Aus and UK blew the crap out of the country and left behind a wasteland with no political structure. Out of the frying pan into the fire. Iraq isn't much different. Try for a second to climb into someone else's shoes. Take into perspective how we felt when the night club of aussies in Bali was blown up. Now imagine being a father in Afghanistan or Iraq who's just watched his wife and kids get blown up or shot to pieces or starve to death because of US, Aus, UK. Revenge is gonna be hot on his mind if he doesn't kill himself right there and then. To them, an eye for an eye is just and that's just what they're doing. There are atrocities all over the world (especially Africa atm) but the "triad of peace" *cough*bullshit* can't go nosing into everything and not expect repurcussions...
My fingers are sore, someone finish off for me...

[Fisheye]

well exbunno you just bought a ticket to hell cause whoever doesnt listern to a JW when the come automatically doesnt go to heaven. Plus they only think heaven fits 144,000 people. Haha.

Anyways, exit 34. What religion doesnt want every person in the world to be part of their religion. I wish everyone in the world was in my religion, but i know it aint gonna happen and im certaintly not gonna shove it down anyones throat. And yeah, im not gonna blow myself up.

What happened to the Jews is a lot worse then it is to the muslims, and did the jews blow anyone up? Even the extermist jews didnt.

And the muslims are the fastest growing religion in the world in terms of numbers but not percentage growth.

For yeww, we dont hear about other religious exteremists because they dont blow themselves up. If they did im sure we would. Not all muslim terroists are arabian types, heaps of them are white too.

Some of the muslim doctrine is pritty wack, like heaven is full of virgins and they believe in a eye for an eye etc.

But what it comes down to, doesnt matter what religion you are, its the person who counts. And there is wankers in every religion. Just the ones in islam blow themselves up.

[Fisheye]

for the record. Im christian and not proud of the history of it (even though my church wasnt a part of it)

I dont think anyone who feels malace towards another man is truly inspired by god. Hence them exteremists (both christian and muslim) were never inspired by god, but greed and hate.

And yes hollowpoint is right, revenge.

Even though i consider myself a decent enough bloke and christian etc, i would still want heavy blood if someone killed my loved ones. I would just reframe as it not the way of the lord. But in saying that, i dont know how it feels so I cant really say what I would do.

[muggo]

the thing you have to keep in mind is these other religions hold the beliefs that the western world is evil, and if they act to defeat it they will go to their version of heaven. What we consider totally outrageous, such as 9/11 etc. they see as their ticket to heaven...

[what_a_bogan]

Eh watever I'm missing the cricket thanks to this.


LOL thats the exact same thing my brother said fucking 9 wickets im upset :evil:


anyways If they where to bomb Australia it would have to be Sydney think about it where they have bombd has all been major cities like New York the main arub parts London so if they would bomb have to be Sydney. Melbourne or even Gold Coast which i doubt the Gold Coast would get bombed. If you worry about it they win if you fight on you win.

[Booger]

They wouldn't bother with Australia we are such a piss weak nation compared to all the others.

[northathegoldy]

booger = tool

[nugget]

Just think how much more peaceful the world would be if it wasnt for the increasing demand for oil...



oil?? think about how much peaceful the world would be without religion. religion is the cause for all these problem and everyone knows it. religion is stupid and pointless.

[exbunobooga]

If im not mistaken religon is the cause for more deaths than any other disaster

[lmnop]

religion is stupid and pointless.

dam right..the world is fucked up because of it! i thought god or who ever u believe in wanted to bring peace to the world not destruction and chaos

[what_a_bogan]

religion is stupid and pointless.

dam right..the world is firetrucked up because of it! i thought god or who ever u believe in wanted to bring peace to the world not destruction and chaos


alrite im ganna start a group of people
WAR


WE AGAINST RELIGION

whos in.

[muggo]

does anyone reckon without religion more crime etc. would occur? Imagine if there were no 10 commandments or the equivelant etc... would everyone start stealing, murdering and the like with no remorse? I'm not sure myself, interested to know what yous reckon.

[lmnop]

nah i rekon the world would be alot beter without religion ay..i mean its just common sence that stealing and murdering and shit like that is a bad thing to do..as if the 10 commandments would stop any1 from killing someone
y are those religious pricks going around killing so many inoccent people if its a sin to do it in the first place?!? fvcken bullshit to me

[yewwww!]

hollowpoint, i totally agree with you. deffinatly thinking along the same lines.

fisheye, i totally disagree with you. i think your views are completly one sided and immature. i think your dont have much knowlage beond your door step.

[muggo]

where does common sense come from though? its developed from what people, the media etc. tell us is right and what is wrong.. without religion, (whether god etc. is real or not) where would the sense of right and wrong come from?

[PennyWise]

It is true that we need religion to provide people with a sense of right/wrong and morality and for some people to provide them with a sense of purpose and meaning, however, it is the stupid cocks that take it way over the top and bomb people that ruin it for everyone....in my humble opinion anyway...

[JRsurfer]

"anyways If they where to bomb Australia it would have to be Sydney think about it where they have bombd has all been major cities like New York the main arub parts London so if they would bomb have to be Sydney. Melbourne or even Gold Coast which i doubt the Gold Coast would get bombed. If you worry about it they win if you fight on you win."

I heard somewhere that a bunch of Afghan looking terrorist fellas were sighted scoping out the transit system down in Melbourne and taking videos and shit of the train stations and that.

Would be farking crazy if one of these attacks did happen in Australia ay. Just imagine the shit some people would go thru worrying bout rellies and that.

[what_a_bogan]

yer i would hate that!

[Fisheye]

well yeww you can think i am immature because i think blowing up people isnt a way to get peoples attention. If that is the case then i am very immature. So immature i might even go as far to say that when people feel mistreated, they shouldnt take it out on other people. Maybe im so immature that i rekon taking out a mass murderer from power isnt soo bad.

Maybe I need to get out to the real world and get into places such as helensvale ghetto with other high schoolers and realise that blowing people up is the 'voice' these days. I dont know, maybe guys like yewww are just like the 'stolen generation' and know what the 'streets' and 'depression' is like. Maybe its too much emo rock.

Pennywise is right, there is extremists in every religion. Just like there is extreme atheists. What religion the extermists are doesnt matter because in most the cases the religions forbid all that crap. So they are doing it out of their own merit, not the religions.

You all concentrate on all the bad things religions have done. Investigate the good.

[yewwww!]

religion is stupid and pointless.

dam right..the world is firetrucked up because of it! i thought god or who ever u believe in wanted to bring peace to the world not destruction and chaos
what these people do, has nothing to do with the will of god. people take the matter into their own hands. they interperate the bible and other scriptures into something else. saying that god is the one to blame is deffinatly not true.

[yewwww!]

well yeww you can think i am immature because i think blowing up people isnt a way to get peoples attention. If that is the case then i am very immature. So immature i might even go as far to say that when people feel mistreated, they shouldnt take it out on other people. Maybe im so immature that i rekon taking out a mass murderer from power isnt soo bad.

Maybe I need to get out to the real world and get into places such as helensvale ghetto with other high schoolers and realise that blowing people up is the 'voice' these days. I dont know, maybe guys like yewww are just like the 'stolen generation' and know what the 'streets' and 'depression' is like. Maybe its too much emo rock.

Pennywise is right, there is extremists in every religion. Just like there is extreme atheists. What religion the extermists are doesnt matter because in most the cases the religions forbid all that crap. So they are doing it out of their own merit, not the religions.

You all concentrate on all the bad things religions have done. Investigate the good.
fisheye mate your kinda contredicting your self. saying that, you dont hear about other religious extreemest, only the muslim ones. then your saying it doesnt matter what religion the exteremst's are??

and i think your taking my comment a little over the top. i dont recall saying anything about the "helensvale ghetto" and what the "streets" are like. all i stated was that you have an immature view, which clearly by those few comments, you do.

[nugget]

where does common sense come from though? its developed from what people, the media etc. tell us is right and what is wrong.. without religion, (whether god etc. is real or not) where would the sense of right and wrong come from?


i beleive god has absolutly nothing to do with ones common sense or morality, take the extremist for example they believe in god and everything written down in the past which is not ment to be taken literally and they have no problem killing people. how could this be so if religion tells us what right and what is wrong? i believe people are born with their own sense of what is right and what is wrong.

[Boogie_man]

i started reading this thread...but things people were saying just kept getting longer and longerr and longerrr...so i stopped. Not saying i couldnt care a less, but iv seen enough of it on telly

[yewwww!]

all that shit on t.v is garbarge. who needs to see half of that shit.

[straddiekook]

not another religion argument. its called KEG TALK not BIBLE BASHING.

[beachbum]

religion is stupid!

[Fisheye]

repent you sinners repent.

Let the light of christ burn within you with a baptism of water and baptism of fire. Free yourselves from the chains of satan.

Haha just jokes...........

Props to all the people in london still taking public transport and attending that big ceremony. The terrorists would be spewing.

[i luv lefts]

Bottom line,why is it when western people die as a result of malcious acts is plastered all over the news ( and justifiably so) when innocent people in the middle east are dying everyday, and no one gives a ..... fill in the blank.

I agree. every day people in Iraq are killed by bombs (and some by foriegn soldiers) and it's lucky to make the news here. but when someone in the western world is bombed, the media makes a big song and dance. Iraq people are just as human as those in London or new york, except they've suffered more.
(and on a side note about the media blowing things out of proportion, dr patel aka "dr death", was not fairly treated. many of his patients didnt have much hope anyway. BY no means am I saying he was a saint that has been misconstrued, just that the media was not objective)

[muggo]

i beleive god has absolutly nothing to do with ones common sense or morality, take the extremist for example they believe in god and everything written down in the past which is not ment to be taken literally and they have no problem killing people. how could this be so if religion tells us what right and what is wrong? i believe people are born with their own sense of what is right and what is wrong.

i don't think people are born with their idea of right and wrong... it has to come from somewhere. however i agree that religion is not the key influence to all common sense.

[what_a_bogan]

not another religion argument. its called KEG TALK not BIBLE BASHING.

true

[mattt]

i also believe that religion is the greatest cause of so many terrible things that has happened but it is not the religion itself it is evil/greed/powerstruck people using and manipulating religion as an excuse for their actions.